RETURN OF THE GIANTS?

Hello,

It's Barry Chamish here. From 1987-99 Israel boasted a spectacular UFO wave and I was the reporter who covered it in depth. The incidents were profound, culminating
in the close encounters with giants mostly around the town of Kadima. My book was once nearly impossible to find, but it's back:

Return Of The Giants.
Available in two editions, with black and white illustrations or with the more expensive color illustrations.
Many, many color shots of UFO evidence.

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In thirteen dramatic chapters, the book takes you from the pictographs of Shikmoneh Beach, the giant tracks of Yatzitz, the encounters of Kadima, following the flow of
occasional frauds, much real physical evidence and two dozen photos of the adventure. Most spectacular are the three photos of the alien being filmed during the night of the sun at Ramat Hachayal. This is possibly the only alien being ever photographed with its shadow following its body.
Lulu.com will let you download the book for under $10 or will send a handsome copy to your home for under $20. Between us though, order the color version for the best experience.

May I present the DVD of Return Of The Giants as well? Besides presenting programs I advised for NBC and Fox-TV, I include over 20 amateur clips including the now famous Hatzor
"balcony" craft, a disc over Rishon Letzion chased by an Israeli jet in clear daylight, and the only known UFO attack, over Rosh Haayin, where two UFOs collide and explode. I hope $20 is a fair price for my work.

If you wish to purchase the DVD, or invite me to lecture or be interviewed, write chamish@netvision.net.il or call me at 904 501 7605

Meanwhile, here's the introduction to the book: Best, Barry


INTRODUCTION:
RETURN OF THE GIANTS?

Are the Anakim or the Refaim, the giants of the Bible returning to Israel
today? There are only two periods of recorded history when giants were
reported in Israel; In biblical days from the time of the Flood to the ascension
of King David and since 1993 in modern Israel.

The case for the return of giants to Israel is airtight. The giants thoughtfully
chose reliable contactees as witnesses, allowed their craft to be filmed and
left in their wake ample physical evidence.

In fact, what characterizes the current Israeli UFO wave from others in the
world, is the sheer abundance of physical evidence left behind by the visitors.
Consider the first incident to usher Israel into the UFO age.

On the evening of Sept. 28, 1987, a 27 year old auto mechanic, Ami Achrai
was driving just south of Haifa when he saw what he thought might be a
helicopter in distress hovering just above the sands of Shikmona Beach on
the Mediterranean Sea. He stopped his car and to his utter amazement saw a
disc-shaped craft which emitted a bright red flash before disappearing.

Two days later he returned to the site with a ufologist the police referred him
to, Hadassah Arbel. What they discovered remains one of the most lasting
proofs ever left by a UFO of its physical existence. The flash emitted by the
craft burned its image into the sands of Shikmona Beach. A fifteen meter
ellipsoid disk was burnt black into the sand but what was more interesting
was what wasn't burned. In the vegetation which wasn't burned was a clear
image of the pilot of the craft facing a control board.

Seven years later I sent samples of the burnt sand to the television show
Sightings which subjected it to laboratory tests. The sand seemed to melt in
the heat of the camera light. The reason later discovered was the sand
particles were covered by a low melting hydrocarbon material. The laboratory
could find no natural or human explanation for the phenomenon.

Ami Achrai's incident was followed by a repeat performance on June 6, 1988
when a similarly shaped craft was once again burned into the sands of
Shikmona Beach, about 100 yards north of the first site. This was followed by
the most spectacular display of all. On April 27, 1989, two teenagers
witnessed a UFO explode into thousands of shards over Shikmona Beach.

By now, Israeli ufologists were prepared to handle the latest incident more
scientifically. The beach was strewn with burning white metal which was cool
to the touch. The metal even glowed in water. When picked up, the shards
turned into a white ash. Scientists from the Technion Institute of Technology
tested the site and found that magnetism was 6000 times higher than the
surrounding area. The shards were found top be very pure magnesium.

Two hundred yards above Shikmona Beach is a biblical shrine called Elijah's
cave. Here Elijah preached and here or somewhere nearby in the Carmel
Mountains, Elijah challenged the Canaanites to a duel of Gods. Two bulls
were tethered and the gods were beseeched to roast them. Naturally, baal
failed the Canaanites but Elijah's God sent a ray of light from heaven which
cooked the bull on the spot. This ray must have been similar to the kind of
beam which burned the sands of Shikmona Beach into a saucer shape.

Within the Cave of Elijah is an ancient drawing of something that was the
spitting image of the craft burned into the sands below. The Sightings team
decided the image "was a coincidence. Maybe it was a bat." When Michael
Hesseman filmed the drawing he left certain it was a match for the burned
sand pictures.

Although the cave drawing's meaning is in dispute, the fact of the modern
UFO- burned inscriptions is not. Something unique occurred at Shikmona
Beach. Alien craft decided to leave souvenirs there at least three times. By
doing so, they revealed the dimensions of their craft and apparently pilot, as
well as their construction material. These were not crop circles nor were they
formed the same way. A very different message was left on Shikmona
Beach's sands.

After the UFO explosion, there was a hiatus of UFO activity until 1993 broken
only once in late 1991 over the village of Sde Moshe, some five miles from
Kadima. There, after two straight nights of having the inside of his house lit
up by an unexplained craft hovering above it, Eli Cohen captured the
responsible UFO on videotape. Several minutes of the tape were filmed after
daybreak making the result a most clear and convincing record of a UFO.

It seems the visitors were merely scouting the Kadima area in 1991 but they
returned in force in 1993. And this time, the occupants of the crafts did more
than merely hover in the sky.

In the early morning of April 20, Tsiporet Carmel's house glowed from within.
She stepped outside and saw what she thought was a new fruit silo built
outside her back yard. But then she saw the silo add a second storey to itself.
Ten yards to the side of this magical silo, Tsiporet saw a seven foot tall being
wearing metallic overalls. Its head was covered in a what looked like a
beekeeper's hat. Tsiporet said, "Why don't you take off your hat so I can see
your face?" The being answered her telepathically, "That's the way it is."

This was Israel's first publicized close encounter with an alien being. Tsiporet
could easily have been made an object of ridicule but for the fact that a crop
circle 4.5 metres in diameter was found exactly where she had seen the craft.
Within the circle were shards of a material later found to be a very pure
silicon. I add, Israel's ufologists are divided over the veracity of the silicon
because there was a prankster loose in Kadima.

However, within ten days, two more circles were found just outside Tsiporet's
back yard. This time, they were soaked with a red liquid and this fluid would
be a constant feature of upcoming landing circles. It was tested by the
National Biological Laboratory in Ness Tziona and found to be composed
mostly of cadmium.

This was the end of Tsiporet's incidents. Now the visitors concentrated on
two other woman in their late thirties living on Hapalmach Street. The first
was a Russian immigrant Mara. Strange forces shook her house so hard they
caused the outside airconditioning unit to fall out of its casing into the house.
Voices called to Mara in her childhood nickname. Eventually she decided the
house was haunted and she moved far from Kadima.

Shosh Yahud is the treasurer of the town of Kadima. She is down to earth
and wants as little to do with her UFO experience as possible. In May, she
awoke to see a seven foot, round faced being in silvery overalls circling her
bed as if "floating on his shoes." The creature assured her he was not there
to harm her and she became relaxed. After a few minutes the being floated
through her wall outside.

Shosh thought she had dreamed the incident until she looked out her
wondow in the morning and saw a 4.5 meter crop circle in her backyard. The
ufologists descended on her home and discovered the silicon and cadmium
within the circle.

Next, in June, it was Hannah Somech's turn to be visited by a giant. Hannah
lives in Burgata, three miles from Kadima. She was startled to see her dog
go flying across the kitchen into a wall. She stepped outside to investigate
and her way was stopped by an invisible force. She then saw a seven foot,
round-faced being in metallic overalls examining her pickup truck. She said to
it, "What did you do to my dog?" It answered telepathically, "Go away. I'm
busy. I could crush you like an ant if I wanted to. Go back to your husband."

Needless to say, a 4.5 meter circle crushed out of the grass was later found
in Hannah's back yard. Within, the grass was soaked with red liquid
cadmium.

By the end of the summer, the credible reports of giants roaming the land
persuaded the normally staid television station Channel One, to broadcast a
one hour program on the subject. Tsiporet and Shosh appeared as well as
the ufologists who had examined the circles of Kadima. To the apparent
shock of the host, the viewing audience believed the advocates of alien
landings. The result was two more witnesses coming out into the open.

Both were women in their late thirties who lived within ten miles of each other
south of Tel Aviv. Clara Kahonov of Holon was most reluctant to be quoted
but acknowledged that she had seen a giant being.

Batya Shimon of Rishon Letzion saw far more than one. In early July, two
seven foot tall, bald creatures beamed themselves into her seventh floor
apartment. They told her telepathically not to be frightened and she
immediately relaxed. She then felt they had "friendly faces." They roamed her
home, "floating on their shoes" dusting her shelves with a yellow, foul-
smelling powder. One being saw her son's aquarium, became very excited
and called his colleague over. After a few minutes, they beamed themselves
outside. The next night at 3 AM, a dozen giants visited Batya arriving and
leaving the same way.

I have had extensive conversations with the contactees and there is much in
common with their stories. That is a fit subject for a separate lecture. In short,
all were the same age, all were white collar workers, three have been
haunted since their encounters telepathically, all their men slept through the
encounters, two had mysterious pregnancies etc. But the core commonality is
that these women did not know each other and separately described the
same seven foot tall, bald, round-faced giants.

And if absolute proof that giants were about in Israel was needed, it came in
December in the village of Yatzitz, twelve miles east of Rishon Letzion. The
giants had opened a new axis after Kadima, a triangle of twenty miles linking
Rishon Letzion, Holon and Yatzitz.

Herzl Casatini, the village security chief and his friend Danny Ezra were
sharing conversation when they heard an explosion and felt Ezra's house
shake. Herzl opened the door and stood face to face with a nine foot tall
creature in metallic clothes whose face was hidden in "a haze." He shut the
door and called the police. They arrived and discovered deep boot tracks in
the hard mud. The tracks sunk 35 centimeters into the ground meaning
whoever made them had to have weighed, literally, a ton. Thinking there
might have been a terrorist incursion, the army was called in.

Military trackers were totally stumped. The tracks carried on for 8 kilometers.
The heel dug in only 5 cm. meaning whatever made the tracks was walking
almost on tip-toes. If you can call it walking. Sometimes the distance between
tracks was twelve feet, meaning the intruder was a world record holding
broad jumper weighing about a ton.

The Yatzitz incident confirmed, even to the deepest skeptics, that giants were
indeed sighted and they left proof that was nearly impossible to dispute. The
best the Israeli authorities could come up with to explain the tracks was they
were left by an unknown cult. It would have to be very unknown for records of
cults whose ceremonies include dressing as giants and leaving miles of
unidentifiable tracks are undoubtedly quite rare.

After Yatitz, giant sightings were reported in Ramat Hasharon, Rehovot and
Afula. And 1996 became a vintage year for UFO evidence gathering with a
good dozen craft filmed. Two incidents stand out. In August, a UFO was
filmed over three nights with professional equipment at Kibbutz Hatzor. The
results include a closeup of what appear to be rows of square-shaped vents
on the craft. In December, a Netanya household reported constant contact
with small greys, the first such report from Israel. The witnesses backed up
their claims with an abundance of physical evidence, including stones that
melt ice immediately without a known energy source.

The Israeli UFO experience is unique and very complicated. I have touched
on just one aspect of it; but it is vital to understanding the Israeli puzzle. Of
the seven best documented close encounters with alien beings provably
connected to UFOs, six involved giants. These giants were determined to
leave evidence of their arrival in the form of cadmium-imbued landing circles,
miles of impossible boot tracks and deliberate communication with witnesses.
Indeed, the abundant evidence more than indicates that there are giants
roaming Israel today.

As there were 5,000 years ago and they also left proof of their existence. The
giants were descended from the nefilim, literally the fallen ones. In ancient
time, entities fell on Israel from the heavens and later became the mortal
enemies of the Hebrew nations.

One giant king was Og of Bashan. The bible records that his bed was thirteen
feet long. Bashan's territory included the Golan Heights. Sitting on the Golan
Heights is the Israeli version of Stonehenge. Called Gilgal Refaim, the Circle
of the Refaim or giants in English, this site consists of five concentric rings
whose beauty can only be appreciated from above. Unfortunately, there was
supposedly no way for the simple nomads of 5000 years ago to see the
circles from above.

The site is enormous. The outside circle has a diameter of 159 meters and
over 37,000 tons of rock went into the construction of the complex. Two
openings in the circles may have been used to measure the solar solstice
and the rising of Sirius in 3000 BCE.

The fact remains that Israeli archaeologists are totally mystified by the Gilgal
Refaim. No other complex built in the Middle East resembles it and it
predates the pyramids by over 500 years. The indigenous nomads of the time
did not engage in this kind of megalith building, so outsiders were probably
the builders. According to the Bible, the only outsiders living on the Golan
Heights back then were giants.

Maybe it's a longshot, but no one has come up with a better explanation for
Israel's current UFO wave. I believe the ancient giants may be coming home.
I conclude on a somber note. The biblical giants were God's enemy and
Israel's armies were the means to their utter destruction. There is a legitimate
reason to contemplate the recent re-arrival of giants in Israel with a good
measure of dread.
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Here is a You Tube presentation to check out (not related to the above article, but about a contactee):

Interview of ET Contactee Alex Collier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ubrA3x7rm

MERRY CHRISTMAS

APPRECIATION

The difference between then and now.

When I was a little girl about four years old we lived in the Blue Mountains of eastern Oregon. We were very poor but love was in our home, especially for me being the only girl and 10 years after my brothers. At that time we listened to radio programs like the "64 Thousand Dollar Question", the "Shadow", "Fibber McGee and Molly" and "Digger O'Dell!" There were many advertisements just like now. I can remember Ralph Edwards saying "Right with Eversharp!" From then on all I wanted for my birthday was an Eversharp pencil! Lo and behold I received a green one and a tablet to go with it. I was overjoyed.

When Christmas came my brother had made me a little table out of apple boxes. He painted it red and I would have a "pig party" instead of a tea party. I don't know where that term came from. For my mother he made a jewel box out of lumber he found somewhere. It had two drawers in it. My mother treasured that jewel box all her life.

But the best time of all was Christmas. What I wanted more than anything was a red rubber ball! How many children today would be satisfied with that I ask you? Next to our place was the one room school house with grades 1 - 6. After 6 you had to move into town and stay with some folks to complete school. My brothers did that and that is why I hardly remember them living at home.

I would continually run over to the school house and my mother would get very upset with me. One day I was running and she was chasing me when she fell over a plow and cut her knee open. I will always remember the remorse, even at that age, I felt. I had caused my mother to be in pain. That was the last time I did that.

At Christmas in the one room school house they would have a party for all the students. Their parents would bring them and I remember my parents bringing me. When it was my turn to reach into the "Grab Bag" guess what I came out with! A red rubber ball! But that is not the best part... under the Christmas tree my Mom or Santa Claus had also given me a red rubber ball. I was in heaven! I will never forget that as I appreciated it so much. I didn't know "poor" or the problems my parents had making a living, I was too young. But the red rubber balls were like gold to me.

Aileen

CHRISTMAS
A. Powell Davies

This piece appeared in Parent's Magazine for December 1950. It could apply to the current day also.

Do you remember this line from a poem by Chesterton, "the things that cannot be and that are?" In these days we may well remember some of them. Nearly everything in the world seems to contradict it, but one of those things is human brotherhood. In spite of all our hatreds, our dissensions, our quarrels, our fierce antagonisms, we are all lonely under the stars, all strangers and sojourners on the earth, all filled with the same deep yearning. How does it happen then, that in our loneliness we turn against each other, saying "Enemy!" when we might say "Brother?"

It is to this that Christmas speaks and always has, and to all sorts and conditions of men and in every language. It begs us to relax the tightness of our hearts, to loosen the shackles of selfishness; it softens our differences, mellows the way we think about each other, lets us see how much alike we are, how bound together in our loneliness and need, and in the darkness--the darkest part of the year -- it lights a candle that no darkness can ever quite put out.

There shall be a world, it tells us, sometime, somewhere, when every heart shall be full, when there will be no cruelty in human faces, no evil cunning in men's eyes. A world of gladness from which all loneliness is gone, in which the joy of each is the joy of everyone and the sorrow of each the grief of all. There shall be this kind of world, it says, because there is this kind of world, just for a fleeting day, at Christmas.

After all, there was a time, not so very far away and long ago, when there was no Christmas, under that name or any other--a time when the world contained no love or brotherhood and nothing whatever made mankind different from the animal life about it. Then something happened, and the heart of man as well as his brain began to grow. Something of love came. We have traveled a little distance since then, not always in a straight line but we have kept on traveling. And we are traveling still. We expect at last to arrive -- to come to a full humanity, to kindness, gentleness, friendship, brotherhood. This has become our hope, our anticipation, our reasonable faith--of which Christmas reminds us.

There need be no room for bitterness, no cause for hate, we could dare to be humble, to walk softly, to open our lives to the sweet grace of charity. We could venture upon sympathy, dispel the harshness of our condemnations, forego the shelter of prejudice, the defensiveness of pride, we could look at life simply and directly; we could be compassionate without condescension, we could look at each other frankly in the eyes. We could dare to do this, and someday we shall, because there is that within us which tells us so, knowing that it holds the key to all the unsolved problems of the world.

These are "the things that cannot be and that are," and Christmas makes them plainer to us. We have not reached a good life yet, not a really good life, we men and women of the earth, but we cannot give up the hope of it. We have never loved our neighbor as ourself, but in our hearts we want to do so. That is what troubles us and makes us unquiet and restless, we shall never be really happy until the whole world is happy; and until we love one another, we shall be divided within ourselves.

That is the real meaning of Christmas. Not just twinkling lights and tinsel, but "the things that cannot be and that are." As the Bible prophesies it, a time is coming when "the crooked shall be made straight and the rough places plain"; a time when the cruel shall be kind and the strong gentle, and "a little child shall lead them."

Here, then, in a time of storm and tumult, an age of unprecedented struggle and distress is our faith and our hope. Though all goodness be denied and the world wastes with evil things, yet we can still believe. For Christmas tells us that someday, when we have at last deserved it, the God who has stretched our hearts with loneliness will fill them with His love.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE

FOR CHRISTMAS

ELF MAGIC
THE BEACON
PLYMOUTH, WISCONSIN
By Sue Illroz

Each time Plymouth resident Nancy Tkacz is in a store and sees a toy elf made of felt with a plastic face, her eyes fill with tears.

That's because she recalls a special Christmas time memory involving her three children - Mason, now 29; Aaron, 28 and Brook, 24. Mason and Brook reside in Manitowoc, and Aaron in Greet, S.C.

When they were children, their grandmother, the late Joyce York, bought three 12-inch elves at the former Schuette's Department Store in Manitowoc. At first, she used them as decorations on her Christmas tree.

But later, "She told the children that the elves were Santa's helpers and that they kept an eye on the children, to see if they were good or naughty," Tkacz said.

"My mother would move the elves around in different places, while the children were visiting her, so my kids believe that the elves were magic and were moving around and keeping an eye on them.

"She would be holding an elf in her hand, and then she would distract the children somehow and quickly move the elf to another spot."

When one of the kids saw an elf in a different place, they would say, 'The elf moved,' she noted.

"And each one had their own magic elf." Tkacz said. "All three of them believed in the elves longer than they believed in Santa Claus.

"They were 11 or 12 before we told them, and Brook said when she found out th elves were not magic, she was heart-broken."

Tkacz recalled an incident that occurred when Mason was a first-grader. "Mason told the kids at school about his magic elf," she said. "And his teacher knew that Mason's grandelf had followed him to school," Tkacz said.

"Then, during the day, Mason's teacher moved his elf around the classroom. The other kids in his class would ask him how the elf moved, and he said, 'My elf is magic.'

"They thought that was so neat and wished they could have their own magic elves," she said.

When Tkacz's children reached adulthood and moved out of her home, their grandmother gave each one his or her elf. Aaron's wife Becky named his elf Sven.

"She says he looks Swedish," Tkacz explained.

Mason's friends know the story about his magic elf. "So when his friends visit him, they move the elf around," Tkacz said. "Also, Mason and his wife Jenny are looking forward to passing this tradition on to their family. They are expecting a baby girl -- Rose Olivia in March."

Mason said he enjoys having his friends move his elf around, as the practice enhances the memories he holds of his family tradition.

"When we were younger, we enjoyed trying to figure out how the elves moved," Mason recalled. "It was a puzzle."

"As we grew older, we didn't believe they were moving on their own, but we were looking for evidence. My family was pretty slick and we never caught them.

"I guess my favorite memory of the magic elves tradition is that even when we realized the elves were not magic, no family members admitted to moving them around," Mason said. "They kept pretending they didn't know anything, about how they were moving."

Brook keeps her elf on a shelf in her bedroom. And Aaron's elf is in his guest room.

Tkacz enjoys seeing the elves when she visits her children in their homes. But she has fond memories of the years that the elves resided in her mother's home in Manitowoc. One reason is that the elves' presence resulted in good behavior for her children - that is, during the weeks before Christmas.

"The tradition of the magic elves knit our family together," she said. "It was fun, and we shared something special."

PARADISE VALLEY UFO CRASH

October 2, 1948 Phoenix/ Paradise Valley Arizona (Dreamy Draw) Arizona

Approx. 3 months after Roswell, a UFO crashed somewhere in the Dreamy Draw area. Another version to the report has it that a UFO settled down in the Dreamy Draw area but actually crashed 10 miles away near Cave Creek landfill.

The remains of its two aliens, described as about 4½ feet tall, were recovered. They were supposedly kept in a residents freezer for a while and then taken away by the military.

Some believe the reason the Army Corps of Engineers built the Dreamy Draw Dam was not for flood control, but to bury the UFO. Also in that same area, you will find a large underground vault.

Sent in by Gerald

ANOTHER REPORT ON THE KINGMAN CRASH

1953 MAY 20, KINGMAN ARIZONA UFO CRASH:

It has been published that a UFO crashed on the May 20, 1953 near the desert town of Kingman, Arizona. One witness signed an affidavit.

THE STORY

The earliest reference of a crash near Kingman has been made to MUFON researcher Richard Hall in April 1964. He was told the story by a future Vietnam commander. The case of the Kingman UFO retrieval was then brought to the public attention by Raymond Fowler, a respected UFO researcher, in June 1973. It involved an engineer who took preliminary measurements to assess the momentum of a crashing craft, measurements useful to any reverse engineering efforts. The engineer who brought this story to light was Arthur G. Stancil (previously known by the pseudonym "Fritz Werner"). Stancil graduated from Ohio University in 1949 and was first employed by Air Material Command at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio as a mechanical engineer on testing Air Force aircraft engines. Dr. Eric Wang who was suspected of leading a reverse engineering team on alien craft headed the Installations Division within the Office of Special Studies where Arthur worked.

Stancil signed a legal affidavit couching to the honesty of his testimony, who that was released by Raymond Fowler in UFO Magazine, April 1976.

Stancil told that he was loaned out to the Atomic Energy Commission and was designated as a project engineer on some atomic bomb tests referred to as "Operation Upshot Knothole." The location of these tests were at Frenchman's Flats at the southern end of the Nevada Test Site. The test director was a Dr. Ed Doll.

On May 21, 1953 Stancil was called away by his boss and told to report for a special assignment at the Indian Springs Air Force Base where he was joined by 15 other specialists. They were flown by military plane to Phoenix where they boarded a bus with blacked-out windows and rode for an estimated four hours. When they arrived at their destination somewhere southeast of Kingman in one of the washes of the Hulapi Mountains, they were met and briefed by an Air Force Colonel who told them they were to investigate the crash of a super-secret test vehicle. He and the others on the bus were told not to speak to each other under any circumstances. Stancil's job was to determine the forward and vertical velocities of th vehicle when it impacted in the sand.

Stancil was escorted to the site by military police. Two military arc-lights illuminated the saucer, which appeared to be two convex oval plates inverted over each other approximately 30 feet in diameter. The saucer was embedded in the sand about 20 inches.From this Stancil had determined that the saucer crashed at a velocity of 100 knots yet it had no dents, marks, or scratches on its burnished aluminum surface. It was constructed of dull silver metal like brushed aluminum.

Another specialist had gotten a look inside the craft as a 1.5 x 3.5 foot hatch was open revealing an oval interior cabin with two swivel seats and many instruments. Stancil saw one body recovered from the crash. It was humanoid, about 4 feet tall, with brown skin and wearing a silver-metallic flight suit.

While they were back on the bus and being taken back they were made to sign the 'Official Secrets' act and were told never to tell anyone about this incident. Stancil also claims to have seen the body of a small creature about 4ft tall inside a small medical tent. The creature was wearing a skull-cap and a silver one-piece suit.Fowler made several checks as to the integrity of Stancil and everyone who knew him said that he was a man of considerable integrity and scientific ability.

Another story supporting the crash near Kingman came to UFO researcher Len Stringfield in 1977. A man who was in the National Guard at Wright Patterson claimed that he was witness to a delivery from a 'crash site in Arizona' in 1953. He said that three bodies had been recovered and were packed in dry ice, 4ft tall, large heads and brownish skin. Since then several other witnesses have come forward, but I do not have detailed information yet.

An almost identical story was reported to researcher Charles Wilhelm in 1966 by a man who said that his father had told him the story as a death-bed confession.

In 1995 a man who went by the code name of Jarod-2 contacted the Internet publication The Groom Lake Desert Rat (http://www.ufo-mind.com/area51/desert_rat) and told them he had worked for the USAF on a secret project that was an attempt to build a flying saucer simulator. The project had started at the end of the 1940s and had collected material from the crash sites at Roswell and Kingman.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

Stancil worked for Raytheon in Sudbury, Massachusetts in the early seventies on avionics systems. It is unknown as to whether he had further involvement with alien technology, especially since it is likely that he worked for Dr. Wang at some point. Dr. Wang was an Austrian-born graduate of the Vienna Technical Institute, and close associate of Victor Schauberger who had according to the legend developed a concept of a flying disc and allegedly worked on the German flying disc program as early as 1941. Wang taught structural an metallurgical engineering at the University of Cincinnati from 1943 to 1952. Dr. Wang supposedly examined some of the recovered crashed discs and compare them to the vehicals tested in the alleged German V-7 program, but found the retrieved craft to be different in nature. In 1949, he became Director of the Department of Special Studies at Wright-Patterson where he worked long hours in cooperation with scientists from the Office Naval Research and with Dr. Vannevar Bush and others from the "Research and Development Board." Dr. Wang relocate his research from Wright-Patterson to Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Dr. Wang passed away on December 4, 1960.

Curiously, Leonard Stringfield who reopened the case for crash-retrievals, mentioned testimony he had gotten from a Naval Intelligence Officer who had seen bodies from a crash that occurred in the Arizona desert in 1953. He viewed the bodies at Wright-Patterson when the craftes arrived at night aboard a DC-7. There were five crates in all, three of which contained little humanoids about four feet tall. Their heads were hairless and disproportionatly large with skin that looked brown under the hangar lights. They were wearing tight-fitting dark suits. It has been suggested by some researchers that these bodies could have come from the crash mentioned by Stancil.

COMMENT

"Strange as it seems it was during the 1950s that various aircraft companies started research projects on the control of gravity and electro-gravitational propulsion. It is possible that these projects constituted some of the first reverse engineering projects on extraterrestrial propulsion system."

But we have seen no positive results. Of course Air Intelligence had to try reverse engineering, and maybe promoted such research projects, but it was bound to fail; to understand such advanced flying machines would require a full understanding of the physics, and technology to manufacture the parts. If you had provided the Space Shuttle to Orville and Wilbur Wright, they would have learned nothing useful from it. Unless... you would have explained the physics and provided the technology also. Something to think about.
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The last statement I do not agree with. In the 1980's a round craft was seen with an Air Force logo on it being escorted up river by two helicopters near Strawberry, Arizona. A while later it was seen coming down the river - by itself! Wendelle Stevens was the researcher on this and it was reported in The Arizona Highways magazine. - Sunshine

COUPLE CLAIMS ALIENS ABDUCTED, PROBED THEM

December 22, 2005


Clayton and Donna Lee

A husband and wife in Houston, Texas, claim they have been abducted by aliens several times, including an incident where a fetus was taken from the woman, according to a Local 6 News report.

Clayton Lee said he was a child in a Houston park the first time he was abducted. He said he was lifted in the air at the time of the alleged abduction. "I remember just floating up higher and higher, Lee said. "And, all that was around were stars an blackness. And then, I blacked out."

Donna Lee said she lost a baby during one of the encounters. She also drew a photo of the aliens who abducted her.

Local 6 News showed video of a hypnotist trying to retrieve memories of the abduction. "They're touching me -- quit touching me," Clayton Lee screamed in fear during the session.

Susan Clancy, who is a Harvard psychiatrist, decided to do research on people's abduction claims similar to the Lee family's.

Clancy ran an advertisement searching for people who wanted to be included in her book about alien abductions.

"When I ran the first ad looking for people who thought they had been abducted by aliens, I thought we would get very few calls, but we were inundated with calls for a month after we ran one ad," Clancy said.

Clancy said she is not a believer of alien abductions.

"So, people have symptoms like psychological distress, anxiety, sexual problems, nightmares, and for better or for worse, today, being abducted by aliens is a culturally available explanation for why you might have some of these symptoms," Clancy said.

The Lees told a reporter that they expect to be abducted again in the future.

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This report was on my daily Google report on UFOs. - Sunshine

REPTILIAN IN HUMAN CLOTHING

Used by permission of James Bartley

Rebuttal to a Reptile in Human Clothing

by James Bartley

This Treatise is called "More Common Sense" in memory of Thomas Paine when he tried to explain the facts of life to the colonists prior to the Revolutionary War.

This letter is in rebuttal to the one Dr. Richard Boylan gave to a female abductee in a recent Contact Forum letter. Boylan's letter was a classic example of a reptilian propagandist and apologist's lame efforts to justify evil perpetrated upon an innocent person.

My name is James Bartley and I am a close associate and colleague of Barbara Bartholic of Tulsa Oklahoma. Barbara is the most knowledgeable Reptilian researcher on this planet. There is no one on this planet who knows more about the Alien Abduction phenomena than Ms. Bartholic. She has worked with over seven hundred abductees over a span of two decades. I also work closely with Eve Frances Lorgen of San Diego county, California who is also a protege of Ms. Bartholic. I am an abductee myself and speak from the standpoint of Wisdom, which is knowledge gained through experience. I'm not interested in endless conjecture and speculation.

It IS About Spiritual Warfare

I have the maturity to recognize that what we are involved with is spiritual warfare on a cosmic multi-dimensional scale. The reader simply must be aware that the first line of defense for the dark gods is the so-called UFO research community itself. There is nothing simpler than activating the ego of the so- called UFO researcher. It has long been a part of their Modus Operandi. Richard Boylan, Steven Greer and the rest of the Muppet Show are classic examples of manipulated and programmed Muppets who have had their puny egos activated and who have been sent out into the world to impose their wills upon abductees and "experiencers" who are still seeking the approval of others.

Boylan used the usual canned responses in his absurd letter. Namely: 1) The ludicrous notion that the woman was merely suffering from spiritual retardation and was mentally incapable of understanding the "benevolent" nature of the horrific and unwanted experimentation that was being conducted on her.

Witnesses to the Alien Lies

Right now Barbie and I are working with a woman who is literally having her nerve tissues harvested by the aliens. They are replacing her nerve endings with alien nerve endings and are plying this woman with chemicals to promote the growth of the alien nerve tissue.

This woman is eminently qualified to discuss what is happening to her. She is an Electron Microscopist and has spent over ten years working in Tissue Culture Research and Dermatology. She has worked for 23 years in Cancer Research.

This woman is in constant pain and has contemplated suicide on a number of occasions. What has happened to her has absolutely nothing to do with spiritual evolution.

We have also worked with countless women who have suffered painful and bloody hemorrhages, sometimes lasting for days, after the "benevolent ET" doctors had made an unwanted housecall. What, the discerning human must ask, does profuse and painful bleeding have to do with "spiritual evolution." Whatever sophistry of reasoning Boylan uses to justify all of this just gives the reader an excellent opportunity to study the language of a Perpetrator.

Blame it all on Human Military/Industrialists

The second familiar excuse Boylan uses is to heap all of the blame upon "the Global Industrialist and Militarist." This is one of the most insidious methods the dark side is using against the human race.

One of the main planks of the Reptilian Agenda has been to heap all of the blame upon the apparent humans who are merely the errand boys of the reptilian overlords of this world. I say "apparent" because many of the "Illuminated" members of the human race are actually high ranking Adepts, well versed in the Black Arts.

See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil

The New Age La-Dee-Dahs claim that there is no such thing as Evil or Demons, which makes these same New Age La-Dee-Dahs the butt of endless jokes by Witches, Warlocks and Satanists throughout the world because the latter derive their power from demonic entities. An Adept who invokes the power of the dark side and conjures up malevolent non-human entities know more about the paranormal in general and about UFO's in particular than the densest UFO researcher will ever know.

Blame Game Creates More Human Conflict

By constantly blaming "the military" and the "globalist industrialist" the reptilian propagandists condition the abductees into believing that ALL human institutions are bad and that the only hope one has to reach the chimerical ": next level of consciousness, evolution, vibratory frequency" et al is to look to the skies towards the same dark gods who are responsible for their current state of spiritual enslavement.

Never mind that for the most part these "Globalist and Militarist" are part of the same old fraternal orders which worship the patriarchal serpent gods and in many cases are Hosts for Reptilian entities themselves. (We know people who can actually SEE the reptilian image superimposed upon the features of apparent "people" whether the latter are in public or on CSPAN. Some of them can also "sniff out" shape shifting reptilians because they simply don't smell the way normal humans do. I can feel negative reptilian energy when it's in my presence and I can tell you that Boylan has abusive and nauseating reptilian energy in god-awful abundance)

Indwelling Reptilian Beings in Humans or Hosts

These hosts and their fellow travelers operate as a Fifth Column here on Earth to set the stage for the return of the Dark Reptilian Gods. The so-called UFO Research Community is awash with these "Muppets." Even I have to laugh at the irony of it: Literal hosts for reptilian entities facilitating abductee support groups, lecturing at so called "UFO Conferences" and speaking on the Art Bell Show. This is so because of the long term genetic and soul.matrix manipulation of the human race.

At a recent conference in San Diego an abductee was regressed "live" in front of all the other conferees in a closed session. When her memory of a benevolent childhood ET encounter transformed into a frightening encounter with a claw-handed reptilian, Boylan asked her after the regression if she had heard "the sound of helicopters" prior to the encounter.

The implication of his question is apparent to anyone who can still think: It wasn't nasty and harmful ET's abducting the lady...it was "the military in their helicopters."

First of all, I have no beef against mind controlled and perhaps cloned out military security thugs. (They do exist. Ask survivors of Hurricane Andrew in the horrific devastation) It's questionable whether the latter even have souls as we have come to know them.

Infestation of Reptilian Astral Pod-like Entities

Another irony about that conference was that the individual at the situation desk at the register was a Host for a Reptilian Entity. This particular entity is summoned by her "Spirit Guides" to visit Sedona Arizona at intervals throughout the calendar year to take part in "Rebirthing Exercises."

During one of these exercises reptilian astral pods (very dark smoky reptilian shaped astral entities) were seen by numerous witnesses to enter and exit the abdomen of the host whilst the latter growled and hissed as if in a state of possession. The host was merely being "re-infested" and this is done at intervals. This host has all the facial and physical characteristics that mark it as a reptilian hybrid and yet to the unsuspecting "contactee" or "experiencer" she merely comes off as a ditzy New Age La Dee Dah.

This entity has facilitated a number of support groups in the southwest and has left scores of psychologically and physically wrecked "contactees" in its wake over the years. (There are harmful side effects from being in too close proximity to a reptilian host over an extended period of time. The reptilian energy/essence, which oozes out of these containers, seeks to enter through holes in our light body and will eventually corrupt us from within if we hang around them for too long.

An Occult Connection

It may seem somewhat paradoxical that Sedona Arizona is a "New Age Mecca" when at the same time it is a major hub of Satanic Ritual Activity. Also places like Salt Lake City. (Black magicians who have defected from the craft have stated this) There is also a large underground reptilian base beneath Boynton Canyon where much work is done jointly by the ET's and their human military vassals because the entire region is a dimensional vortex area which explains why there is so much Satanic Ritual Activity there. There is a FUNDAMENTAL CONNECTION BETWEEN THE OCCULT AND THE UFO PHENOMENON. THATS IT, PERIOD.

Now, back to the "globalist and industrialist." Mind controlled security thugs are not the problem and anyone with the proper amount of maturity will understand that. And I speak as an authority on the subject because *I've been run off the highway by them, dosed with powerful infections by them, dosed with powerful drugs by them etc, etc, etc. My beef is not against the human vassals of the dark gods. My beef is against the dark gods themselves. I'm not interested in the third team.

Time and again abductees accept at face value what is presented to them. If they "see" men in military attire, they automatically assume that what they are looking at are human beings when in some cases the latter have proven to be shape shifting reptilians. Unlike the surface world, sensitive information is not limited to levels of classification or "Need to Know" but rather to Levels of Awareness.

All that is required of a mind controlled security thug is to apply muscle when needed. It doesn't have the luxury of Independent Thought. It is a tragic mistake for abductees to assume that the "Military" is responsible for high level policy making in the underground bases. The latter presupposes that humans are in charge and that the human/non-human interaction is a relatively new phenomenon, which it is most certainly not. The interaction between human and non-human intelligences has an Occult basis and was thousands if not millions of years in the making.

Who Benefits From This New Social Movement?

The discerning abductee must ask the question: Who benefits by making abductees believe that everything negative about the UFO subject is due to the Military? Why, the "Benevolent ET's" of course. At this point the abductee should be asking, "Why does Boylan and Greer and the rest of the Muppet Show hate the human race so much? (Greer says people who call themselves "abductees" have an inferiority complex and just want people to feel sorry for them) More to the point, why do these Muppets want Humans in general and abductees in particular to fear and to loathe "the Military?" Again, who or what stands to benefit by this? Who indeed.

Apocalyptic Disaster Scenes

Yet another phony apology the reptilian apologists come up with is "how mankind is responsible for ruining the ecology of the planet." It is very common for abductees to be shown horrific scenes of climactic and ecological catastrophes in holographic or virtual reality scenarios sometimes to the point where the abductee breaks down in tears.

Question to all of the experiencers out there who have been shown these types of visions: Why are they trying to lay this ecological guilt trip on you? Were you responsible for running the Exon Valdez aground in Alaska and spewing millions of barrels of crude oil into the ocean? Were you responsible for setting the oil rigs on fire in Kuwait or releasing all that oil in the Persian Gulf? Then why do you allow this very basic psychological warfare strategy to work on you to the point where you start crusading against the human race for "our collective mismanagement of this planet" instead of the aliens who are experts in weather weaponry?

In the counterintelligence world, a "sib" is a carefully planted rumor designed to undermine the morale and the will to resist of the enemy. For example, the British political warfare executive, "PWE planted sibs amongst the German soldiers on the Russian front that the German medical establishment was compelled to start using Jewish blood during surgeries and blood transfusions on German soldiers because of the overall shortage of blood products. You can imagine the kind of effect this rumor had on German soldiers imbued with the Aryan superman myth! Likewise, another sib, which was planted amongst the front line German soldiers, was that Jews were responsible for spreading the bubonic plague in certain German cities.

Please observe how the hard core researchers like the late Karla Turner were constantly slandered and verbally abused by the likes of Boylan and the rest of the Muppet show. Question: What was it about Kandy Turner's research that these Muppets found so threatening that they would heap endless streams of abuse and invective at her? Could it possibly be that there are aspects of this phenomenon that are so terrible that the Muppets of the world would rather have you dwell on the metaphysical and "spiritual" aspects of the experience--rather than the cold hard truth? What is doubly insidious about this form of Muppet propaganda is that it neatly capitalizes on the innate desire of the abductee, that what is happening to them is for their own spiritual evolution as well as for the ultimate benefit of mankind.

It is clear from the above examples that the British political warfare executive and its offspring--the American Office of War Information (OWI) did not spare the sensibilities of the German troops at the front--and indeed exploited absurd Nazi notions of Aryan racial supremacy and racial inferiority. They were trying to wear down the fighting capacity of the enemy.

Do you remember what Philip Kraft said in his book "Contact Has Begun?" He said "The Verdants" (Why didn't they just call themselves the Green Party?) said they have perfect control over the weather and can manipulate the gravity field of any planet they choose to accommodate them perfectly. It's called Terra Forming and Weather Weaponry. I myself have seen UFO's cloak themselves in cloud formations, indeed I have seen the cloud formations actually being created, which was quite a sight to see, let me tell you. Psychological Warfare Tactics

Bottom line: Do not allow these very basic psychological warfare and propaganda methods to work on you, the hapless :"experiencer", "contactee", "light worker" or whatever adjective is used to describe people who are being injected, experimented upon, sexually molested et al by non human intelligences.

Please take the time to study Military History and especially the intelligence/counterintelligence and security apparatus, which has evolved since World War Two.

Some of the methods being used by the reptilian propagandist like Boylan and Greer are so basic they wouldn't even have passed muster with any self respecting counterintelligence officer of World War II.

Study the "Double Cross System" in which captured German agents were "turned" by Britain's MI5 and made to send back misleading information (disinformation) to their Nazi German controllers. (And yes, did you know that Adolf Hitler had connections with the occult dark gods who worked their evil atrocities through him? Most of the people today naively believe that Adolph Hitler was the root source of the evil Nazi Regime, rather than the dark malevolent forces working through him. His abusive childhood is a classic study of how the dark forces eventually consume someone from within. Base, primordial and perverse characteristics are symptomatic of a manipulated and demon infested individual such as Adolph Hitler was.

Read about the supersecret "London Controlling Section" which was responsible for the dissemination of all "Ultra" derived intelligence (intel obtained through the deciphering of enemy codes) and was responsible for all the cover and deception operations related to ultra derived intelligence. As Winston Churchill says, "In war, the truth must be guarded by a body guard of lies."

An understanding of the Surface Intelligence and Security Apparatus is absolutely essential to any understanding of this whole mess before you start delving into the subsurface world where "need to know" and "security clearances" don't even matter. As stated above, in the deep black aerospace/reptilian controlled subterranean world, knowledge is limited to levels of awareness and there is always a price to pay to get to the next level of awareness. There is no such thing as a free lunch, not on this planet anyway. If you want the knowledge there is going to be a certain price you will have to pay and most are unwilling to pay that price.

Conditioned and Triggered Responses in Contactees/Experiencers

The reason why so many abductees are hopelessly confused about this whole mess is because trigger mechanisms have been programmed into them to keep them from getting at the truth of their experiences. I have seen it countless times where an abductee will immediately fall asleep the moment the lecturer begins talking about "fear based" issues but when he/she attends a lecture by a channeler or some other light worker, the abductee is bright and attentive and awake during the whole lecture.

Falling asleep is just one trigger mechanism. Another is annoyance or anger at the "fear based" lecturer or abductee. Likewise an overwhelming compulsion to get up and walk out, to get up and eat, to get up a smoke a cigarette, getting nauseous, a headache etc etc etc.

I have known people who are absolutely incapable of finishing a "fear based" book but can rip through reptilian disinformation books in a matter of hours. What's up with that? I've seen abductees listen to their spirit guides who consistently detract them away from the alleged fear based research information that will probably trigger them into a panic attack. Why do you think that is? Could it be that the self-same spirit guides are the perpetrators themselves?

In the battleground commonly referred to as the "Abductee Support Group" this knee-jerk hostility immediately manifests itself amongst programmed and manipulated New Age La-Dee-Dahs. Whenever "Fear Based Issues" like painful back problems (very common amongst those who have memories of reptilian contact especially amongst females) or autoimmune disorders or the whole gamut of gynecological problems are regarded as spiritually retarded fear mongers. Furthermore, those who bring these topics up are sometimes accused of being some kind of spiritually unevolved disinformation artist! The cold hard truth is that most UFO researchers and abductees aren't even worth spying on. To the gullible and manipulated---everyone seems to be a government agent! If that were true there would be no one left to spy on. The painful truth is some of these abductees and researchers are having their phones tapped and mail opened because there is no one else around in their region worth instilling paranoia on.

Consider this scenario: An intelligence officer says to his general:"General, it seems that the enemy is massing in our front. We have identified certain units, which have arrived recently from other areas. The enemies wireless communications traffic has suddenly gone dead and all signs point to an imminent attack in our sector." How do you think the general will respond to his intelligence chief? " Why are you being so fear based? Why are you drawing that negativity to you? Bla, bla, bla, quack , quack, quack."

Can you see why I have so little patience for that sort of immaturity?

The New Age La Dee Dahs consistently use a melange of metaphysical spiritual platitudes about the whole ET phenomenon and often times become irate and livid during these exchanges with abductees who are more mature and sensible than they are about the ET subject. And all of the vindictiveness and hollering by these New Age La Dee Dahs (Pagan Idolaters) is done in the name of "Love and Light." Of course.

Other programmed behaviors are promiscuity, self destructive behaviors such as substance abuse, self destructive relationships (many female abductees have had at least one and usually more controlling, domineering and abusive men on their lives for extended periods of time. (It never occurred to them that these abusers were themselves being manipulated) and the list goes on and on and on and some of you "researchers" out there are still running around with that metal spoon in your pocket hoping to get a CE2 sample for analysis. You are still staying up all night atop a wind swept plateau hoping a UFO flys by. GROW UP.

Ego Activation by the Dark side

Once and for all: This is not an Alien Phenomenon per se, it is a Human Phenomenon because it's happening to humans. Logic, is what Mr. Spock calls it. And if you are going to take part in this great drama--please, please, please do not allow the aliens to activate your ego. It is the simplest thing. A few meaningless telepathic transmissions, a few UFO fly-bys, a few:"meaningful synchronicities" and your egos are activated and then you turn into another Muppet. I call these types of manifestations "parlor tricks." I'm not interested in parlor tricks. The same exact thing happens to budding wiccans and witches. The very first spell or incantation works and they think they were responsible for it when it was actually the demon or familiar spirit who is manipulating them. i.e. their Handlers. (Handler is a term I use for the abduction syndrome because it is the most apt.)

The real message of the Boylan's, Greers and all of these other Muppets is "Don't bother me with the facts." "If you don't believe what I believe you are a spiritual retard and probably a government agent to boot." And once again, all of this wailing and gnashing of teeth is done in the name of:"Love and Light "

What we are involved with is Spiritual Warfare and I'll argue that point until someone else is blue in the face. Everything has to first manifest in the unseen realms before they manifest in the visual spectrum, in the spiritual before it manifests in the physical. Look around you: The symbology of the reptilian overlordship is all around. The thought form of reptilians in the mass media is constantly hammering you. Crude and vulgar behaviors are being presented to you in the mass media and the so-called entertainment industry--as if crude and vulgar behavior is The Norm in our society today. The baseness and vulgarity, which is being promoted, is symptomatic of a reptilian influenced society. People are so used to the lies that if they heard the truth they would probably have an allergic reaction to it!

The Original Serpent Seed

The reptilians strive to activate that dark serpent seed which is programmed within all of us. The struggle is within. The opposing polarities of Good and Evil are striving to promote certain attributes and behaviors within us. One side wants to corrupt us from within. the other wants us to break out of this spiritual prison. Ultimately it comes down to your own individual choice. I hesitate to use the term "free will" because being an abductee myself I know that I have been manipulated and programmed and it's a constant struggle to overcome all of these hang-ups-- but that's what will make the ultimate victory that much greater. I firmly believe in the indomitability of the Human Spirit and I firmly believe that it is in our destiny to achieve Nobility as a race. If we had just been left alone I am sure we would have reached that level of greatness already but alas, that hasn't been the case.

Take the time take to read books by Frederick Douglas, the pre-civil war ex- slave who wrote the classic autobiography, "My Bondage, My Freedom."

This Is Not a Popularity Contest

I don't want to know what the academic community knows because they are not qualified to tell me anything. Everything I've learned has come from my own experiences and studies as well as from the mentorship of Barbara Bartholic of Tulsa, Oklahoma. I'm not in this for popularity or ego gratification, which seems to be the norm in the UFO research community. Indeed most of you out there never even heard of me. All I ever wanted was the respect and admiration of the people I respected and admired. People like Barbara Bartholic and Eve Lorgen. I am not seeking the approval of others. I could give a rip about popularity.

"War is about war...it's not about popularity making." General William Tecumseh Sherman

I can't say enough about Barbie and Evie. They have endured things that would have made a lesser person run off screaming to the nearest mental institution. They are true spiritual warriors in every sense of the term.

Spiritual Warfare, ladies and gents... that is what this gig is all about. Were it left up to some of you peaceniks out there, those of us on the West Coast would be speaking Japanese, those on the East Coast would be speaking German and we would need passports to visit the southern states of the Confederacy where there would still be slavery. The fight has been programmed right out of some of you people. You will continue to "research" up and until the great reptilian cattle drive in the sky begins.

It's the old story, "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything." Words to live by. And if you choose to be a New Age La Dee Dah and your children are having these abductions and you just blow off their concerns as being of no consequence, that makes you in my book a very bad parent. If people knew what kinds of conditioning and programming are being done to our children by the aliens, people's minds would short circuit instantly to retain their sanity, if nothing else.

God Give us the Victory,
James Bartley
San Diego
California

www.think-aboutit.com